How to install/extend a USB cable over CAT5e/CAT6 network wiring

Hi, this video shows you how install or extend a USB device or cable over CAT5E/CAT6 Ethernet Network wiring. It is useful when you need to have you USB devices more than 5m away. In this video I show you how to connect up a Xbox One controller over a 10m Ethernet patch cable.
Many thanks Vince

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hi there my name is Vince for mr.
telephone and today I'm going to talk
about how to run a USB signal down an
ethernet cable life cat5e or cat6 cable
so let's say for example if you've got
your equipment hidden away and you want
to be able to bring a USB out of it and
connect it up or normally with the USB
leads that limit of five meters you can
like a extension leads that repeat the
signals so you can have no longer
distances i can think up to 30 meters
but you have to keep on a little five
metre lengths so another popular way is
to connect it up through an rj45 network
so for your network wiring and that will
give you a lot longer runs
so basically you can get these little
adapters which are like rj45 to USB but
the problem with these is theirs
they're not really that flexible so
basically it's an rj45 plug and it's
related to the USB female but you might
want to terminate in a USB midi or a USB
micro or a male and a female in which
case then you having to plug in adapter
or after adapter after adapter and you
get more signal loss and also it doesn't
look very nice
so basically what i want to show you in
this video is how to push the signal
down the rj45 network by crippling on
your own rj45 plugs on to the end of the
USB cable now a USB cable only uses four
wires and there's nobody ate wires in a
network cable so you have found the USB
you have two wives of the data one wire
for the 5 volt and one wife or the
grounds
so there's only five hours going through
this so what I do find this when you go
over a long distance there
it does stop working and I presume its
to do with the voltage drop all the time
it takes to data signal to go i think it
was not recognized within solely seconds
that it said it loses to signal
milliseconds whatever it is
but the reason I sigh looks into the
speaker with his because I wanted to be
able to control my xbox in a different
room I xbox one in a different room and
the other controllers are wireless they
lose the signal after you get you know a
few whatever that five meters away 10
meters away it seems to lose the signal
so basically always looking at a way of
pushing it down the network wiring now
it does work but i find one check out of
15 meters because these controllers have
like a vibration thing in them
I presume they must use quite a bit of
power and also get over 50 meters the
xbox it works but then if I'm playing a
card game if I crash and they start
vibrated
it will then lose the signal and that
would say Xbox color the controller
disconnected and I don't have to
reconnect it which is obviously is an
ideal for up to 10 meters
it works perfectly well actually up to
50 meters it works perfectly on the test
that I've done but opportunity that will
vary with the cables you use but I
presume that these are probably quite
power hungry
well if you want to use result of mouse
or some other USB device like a little
there
maybe if you had a mobile don't go I
presume that would work over a bigger
distance so I'm just going to basically
show you how to crimp your own rj45
plugs on to the end of these USB cables
I'm just going to bring the camera Dale
so as you can see I've already made up
some here this one here is a USB female
to rj45 this world is a nice that was
short
USB Micro to rj45 and I've got various
apple on this is a USB male to rj45 ok
now they all use the same at the same
wiring guys
it doesn't really matter what was you
use in the rj45 but i would always push
the data is that the two data wires in
the USB i would personally pushed about
a twisted pair
so for example in your rj45 she got your
your blue pair your orange pay your
green pen
and your brown parents that's four pairs
so I would push the data
I've about the oranges which would be
pins 12 on the rj45 the greens which
would be three and six the blues which
is pins 45 or the brains which is seven
and eight
I can't see it being an issue for the
power side of the five outside of it but
again i did use a twisted pair
so what I've done is I've put the data
signal there on the output the data
signal down there
the four and five so that's the blue
pair i bet i've put their beg your
pardon sorry I put the power signal now
the four and five-star that just a blue
pair i'll put a data signal to help in
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that's that that's the brown pair so I'm
just going to quickly wire up early just
to show you so this is a zoom in a bit
this is just standard USB cable
not particularly expensive for is quite
fit ok so I've chopped her of chocolate
of the ends off
i'm just going to show you how to
basically wire up so you need to strip
it back
that's just taking the outer sheath off
and that's what we have inside mail
can you see that you've got a shield in
there you got a foil shaded some of them
will have braids and as well as some of
the better quality ones would have
braided but this one here is just some
shield and so we need to cut the shield
in a way
ok
we also have a drain why I have to get
rid of the drain wire
that's the train where we can get rid of
that
and now we have four wise the white and
the green of the data
the red is the plus 5 volts and the
black is the grounds
ok so we want to make sure that
definitely that the data ones on the
twisted pair and you might as well shove
their the power down to twisted pair as
well
ok now the the reason I put them on the
blue and the brown pair on the rj45 on
there on on the cat 5 or casas network
is because depending on the future if
you're just using fast ethernet which
nowadays still most people are only uses
two out of the four pairs so you're
really actually using the orange and the
green pears in that cable so the blue
and the brown pair are actually do
anything in most people's network if
you've got a bigger Network you're a bit
network and you will be using all four
pairs but the reason I put it down the
blues and the Browns because in theory
then you could still use the data signal
down that wiring for example if you were
to wear just use those baits are
economizers I've talked about in another
video
then you'll be able to just shove a data
signal and a USB signal down the 1 cable
so that's the reason I've opted to do it
but these ones that you get manufacture
these these are just adapters that you
get from china as you can see they've
actually used the the the data signal
wiring so they've used one two three and
six so they haven't used they've used
the orange and the green pears there
although they're just all blue that
there that better pins that I've
actually use so they left the blue and
the brown out from here
so the only one is when you use this one
that yes you can send the telephone
signal down because that will use the
blue pair in the middle but most people
do want to use a network force and then
we that signal know you know that a data
signal down it
so that's why I'm pushing it down the
blues and the browns
ok so what we do is
we're going to be putting the black to
pin for and the red in five and then
we're going to be doing the green to pin
7 and the white ship in eight
that can be a little fiddly getting them
into the plugs but i need to leave about
roughly about that much exposed
you can always tell because when you put
your plug when you put your plug if you
pretend you're pushed my citizens as
long as the sheath goes under this
little bit here that crushes talents to
the cable you be okay
in fact i'm going to do a little bit
shorter and again we want a nice a nice
straight edge there so if you use the
normal side cutters
make sure you've got a nice straight
edge so this can be a bit here in this
I'm going to push it hopefully I'll get
it first time
there we go so just to double check
so I went the wrong way around there
hold on
sometimes you get a first-time other
times you have to keep wiggling within
them
there we go so just double check out
that's a black into pin for read into
pin 5 green into pin 7 on white center
pin 8
look there hope you can see the pin so
this is pin one this size us
one two three black 24 red 256 is empty
Green 27 and white 28 let's just get
that failed
there we go you can see that there Y is
going right to the very end you always
make sure you push twice the very end of
these plugs
we're going to go into too much details
already done quite a few videos on how
to connect up these plugs but i just
want to show you the color code
yeah okay that's from the top
see a bit more clearly from there
remember pin what is this side over here
access upside down
yeah ok so that's this one made this is
a USB male
so now rj45 and obviously you need to do
the same on the other side so this is a
lot of a cable that I've made up and you
just examine exactly copy what you what
you've done here
yeah
ok let's go to top you so just do the
same on all the plugs that you won't
connect it up
southworth for this one here for the for
the xbox and hit up
so for the xbox we're going to need a
micro because this up here has a little
micro USB and we're gonna need a male
USB
yeah so we're going to do now is I'm
gonna make sure you bring the video
camera over to the xbox and i'm going to
use it virus had me to lead just to show
you the controller working but you might
want to use this for charging up to find
you but I want to use it for a mouse or
a keyboard if you've got your computer
hitting the way under the stairs and you
want to wear you know you want to be
watching netflix or now TV on your main
TV and you've already got all your PhD
lies and stuff wired up and you just
need to get the USB signal out there
this is a this is a way of doing it
especially if you've already got your
house network top
it can be quite handy so many things you
use USB and once you start to think that
you can beat this 5 meter limit then
there it says it's quite good with the
possibilities of what you can do so as I
say you can buy adapters already but I
quite a lot of flexibility of making up
your own leads
and then you know you can do anything
you must be related you're not gonna
have to keep looking for different
adapters so it sir
it's quite good so I'm just going to
turn the camera off now bring it over to
the xbox
i'm going to show you it connected up
using these needs
all right everybody xbox now and I'm
going to connect up this controller now
just to show you that is getting the
power from the USB and not from the
batteries are going to take the
batteries out
ok so there's no batteries in there now
and what we're going to do is we're
going to have to plug their rj45 to USB
male into the xbox
ok so that's plugged into the USB now
where we're going to have to use a
coupler
you can either get these cat 5e rated
couplers this is a a cat 6 rj45 to rj45
rated coupler or you can get these
cheapy couplers four very little buddy
yeah that's the quiz they will do that
the same job is just the others are
better because they're rated at cat5e or
at six now because i'm using the 10 me
to lead i am going to use a serrated
adapt half but that the cheap ones do
work that the longer distance you go on
there on the ethernet cable that the
more lost there is gonna be so you need
to really bit of us as much as possible
also i'm using the lead here that is
already about one of the half meters
long which is which is not ideal
this is just this where father's head
meters but if I was to go to 50 meters
that I would need to be cutting this
down a lot less because it just seems to
be on loss on these USB cables but then
there's not a loss when it comes to the
east of their cables so I'm just going
to plug in the coupler
now I've got 10 meter is the 10-meter
ethernet cable here
this is a cat six stranded core version
I've also pushed it through my wiring
because down here i have i've already
networked up my house but this is just
for the purpose is just easy to show you
on this video
so where this is a 10 meters stranded
core by views that were solid core and
it worked absolutely fine in fact it
would work probably a little bit better
over a solid core is the wires are ever
so slightly thicker so again there's
going to be a little bit less loss
so we plug off wanted to there and
pretend this is going through your your
house to another room ok so we've got
the the other ends now plug another
adapter into their but obviously if
you've got at your house networks
it's all going to be ended face place
anyway so you can just plug your sockets
you could just put your newly be made
leads straight into your faceplates now
the dale side of this is you are
tethered to the controller
obviously this is not going to be an
issue if you use a little mobile don't
know if you've got if you for example
about vodafone mobile dongle and said
you find that you get a good signal in
the back bedroom upstairs then you can
push the cable
you know you can you can push the signal
through the ethernet cable to where you
actually want to use it because you
might want to use their your laptop in
the lounge
but you might actually have a good
mobile reception there for the dongle
so you can put the jungle against the
window at the back of the house or in
your whole or in your mentoring for
wherever you decide to put it and then
you'll be able to use your laptop still
via dongle but yet the jungles get a
good signal while you need oh you know
it
mobiles could be frosting you can't get
a signal at the front of the house but
the back of the house of signal might be
good
so by running a total 50 me to lead I
haven't tried it with the USB dongles
are proved it might even work a little
bit further but I haven't tried that so
you will be to experiment on that world
so we'll plug in our xbox controller
ok and there can you see that's it's
already lit up so it's recognize it
it's recognizing the controller and that
that's fire this 10 me to lead plus
another lead to the half of rubbish USB
lead and if we go
just to quickly show you
ok but if i was to crash this tree
yeah the controller is vibrated that
hasn't has it cut out
Travis library to the way here but once
I got over 50 liters I do struggle
I don't know whether that's because it's
a voltage drop or whether it's to do
with the actual data signal to sure so
maybe somebody out there who knows more
about usb can answer that one because i
would like to have it working over a
much more distance than 50 meters
I'm not sure if i was to get a USB
powered hub where that would help
let's just step outside
ok so that's certain is the xbox
controller to work it
but again you can use it for those are
different things I also got this one
made up
I actually got this with a USB dongle
with its her when i used to use that I
don't have the sim card for any more
let me just put it on the news so this
is a another thing you can do basic
clear yeah this is like if your device
is lacking power so for example if i was
to use this here
maybe it would give me a lot of a few
meters I haven't experimented with this
one I made it up but i have an
experiment to get to see if i can get
past the 15 meters
but Sir as you can see here there's two
USB plugs one carries the power and the
signal and the other one purely carries
the five volts the five volts signal
from the other USB to give it a little
bit more often
yeah they get off why that's up to you
that the same as the others
yes so there that's so hopefully you
found this useful if you were thinking
about running us be down there down
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okay thanks very much by Dale