Is the Bible Pro-Abortion?

On today's episode Gary responds to an emailer who argues that the Bible supports abortion. Once again, Gary shoots holes in atheist arguments and Truth wins the day.

"The Gary DeMar Show" is your 10 minutes of sanity each weekday. Gary DeMar serves your daily recommended allowance of rationality. This show is where you will hear about current events, pop culture, politics, religion, and bunches of other stuff examined through the lens of a biblical worldview.

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does the Bible support the pro-abortion
position
one man think so
few days ago I wrote an article on
Biblical restitution
I was in the comprehensive article
wasn't meant to be so it was a simple
way to point out
that the Bible deals not not
incarceration putting people in prison
which doesn't help the person who goes
in prison doesn't help the victim
doesn't help the taxpayer because the
taxpayer has to continually
pay for somebody in prison for
committing what is ostensibly a property
crime
instead the Bible has a system of
restitution
you steal something from somebody you
pay back double in some cases you may be
maybe
multiple restitution especially for
persons livelihood is dependent upon
some sort of tool
animals or so forth it may be multiple
I'm restitution up to for and even five
times
this would be specially true if someone
had a prize winning ball
I'll know someone had killed it
and so forth and personal have to make
multiple restitution because
the ball is a generational asset
I'm Anna doing this this the fellow who
over the last two years or so has
sending me
I'll literally hundreds of emails
probably five hundred emails
his belligerent while in many cases
I'll stopper in I ignores evidence
like you would not believe when he's
caught I
in and number of misstatements factual
allegations over he just moves on to
something
something else I don't respond to any
emails anymore I still get a few with
him now and then I i've save them over
the years some of them are so vile that
I can't even put them
I can even discussed in there so bad why
he responded to
my restitution article by by stating
that I'll that
Exodus chapter 21 let me read Exodus
chapter 21 I'm gonna read it
I'm to read this and in terms of our
how how this particular translation
translates it and others do as well
axes chapter 21 for
a 22 if men struggle with each other and
strike a woman with child so that she
has a miscarriage
yet there is no further injury he shall
surely be fined as the woman's husband
made him and have him
the show pays the judges decide there is
any further injury
than usual point as a panel Eli for life
I for eye tooth for tooth foot for foot
I'll hand for hand burn for burn
wound for wound brews for brews and
it even goes to the point I was
essentially same month
if there is any further injury to the
point of death and its
life for life and this is a is a measure
judgment
so there's harm judges decide based upon
a much harder is
I'll this is a case law the case law is
such that
it deals with multiplicity of cases not
give them a little bit later
now so when Fred commented on my
restitution article
I i have the lapd he's again
going into territory that he is ignorant
of and one other reasons he's ignorant
of these things because he was on the
Internet
finds a couple of articles I can always
tell because
now the the the ellipse ease these
little
three dots that you find oftentimes are
still there so is obviously just pull
something off the internet and paste it
into an article
gets a little bit above information is
this a little bit of knowledge is a
dangerous things
bank makes presents his argument and
then answered by saying case closed
9 here's here's what he wrote
here's something interesting about the
subject to restitution what's really
dishonest and ironic about the
anti-choice stance of Christian
totalitarian fascists
like mister damar is that they cannot
support their anti-choice stance
biblically at all
the Bible clearly supports the
pro-choice position
and chapter 21-22
chapter 21 versus 22 23 the book back so
this indicates that the fetus does not
have the same legal status as a person
now that verse indicates that a man
pushes a pregnant woman and she then
miss carey's
he is required only to pay a fine if the
fetus were considered a foreperson
he would be punished more severely as
though he had taken all I first 23 says
that if further
harm is done however you show word life
for life
which proves that the bible does not
consider a fetus to be life but only
potential life
case closed was that what this tax the
same not at all
this tax is very smooth very
specifically designates
well that this pregnant woman has within
her
I A human bean a child
in fact to go so far as to say and
recover all cases
this particular case that she may be
pregnant with
children now I'll Fred oughta know this
this man's name is Fred Weiss
he ought to know this his Jewish admits
he says he's Jewish
I know that he he can read and write
maybe even speak Greek
you can probably do the same with Hebrew
are now anybody who's gonna take
on this particular task of dealing with
this passage
needs to look at the at the Hebrew
unfortunately a lot of translations
try to interpret like fred is
interpreting here
when they oughta know better in fact I'm
you read this
as to the way the Hebrew text states
this
if men struggle with each other and
strike a woman with child
so that her children come out
yet there is no further injury he show
surely be fine is the world woman's
husband made him and have him
and he shall pay as the judges decide
but if there's any further injury than
usual point as a panel Eli for like that
is if there is
death involved here it's to the point of
the death penalty
now what Fred and some others I have a
sound here
is that what comes out of the woman is
simply a miscarriage
of unidentified err on specific
designation
out when the taxpayer actually says so
that hurt children come I'll
I'll the the Hebrew word that's used
their yet
yellowed we would in transliterated
yell it would be why eLED
that word is used elsewhere in scripture
for a
born child this isn't a product of
conception
it's not that some material comes out
but specifically that a a child comes
out in case of the
in in the point in the case of so that
her children
Mike come out that is if the woman has
twins or triplets or whatever
this particular case law covers all of
these things
the Bible attributes self-consciousness
to pre-born babies
something that modern medicine has
started acknowledged JK police are said
to have struggled
within their mother's womb Genesis 25-22
the New Testament offers a similar
claims in the prenatal consciousness
and and came about that one Elizabeth
heard Mary's green
the baby leaped in her womb Luke 141
struggling and leap in are the result of
a particular piece of information
that indicates consciousness so the
Bible designates by using the word
yellowed because it used
for born children and other in other
examples and also shows in terms of
Jacob and he saw
and John the Baptist that there is
consciousness out with with pre-born
children
are now to get to give you a little more
information on this regarding what
others have said
I've I've looked at a
a number of other translations on here
here is the Holman Christian Standard
Bible
it says one man get in a fight in this
is the condition area to man who are
who are fighting with one another a
pregnant woman is nearby
they fall into her maybe she falls down
she gives a premature birth
that's the case related to this says
when men get in a fight and had a
pregnant woman so that our children are
born prematurely
but there is no further injury the one
who hit her must be fine is the woman's
husband demands from him
he must pay according to the 2g judicial
assessment
Young's literal translation says and
when men strive and have smitty pray
pregnant woman
and her children have come out and there
is no mischief he is certainly find as
the husband of the woman
don't lay upon him he hath given through
the judges
and because because it pregnant who are
because
a pregnancy is is deemed to be a
a child a woman what's in the mother's
womb is deemed to be a
child therefore the are making common
computer to the mother or the child
therefore
the punishment the sanctions apply both
to the mother
and do the job there's no indication
here that this only applies to
mother because people work ya llegue is
very clear
that extreme porn the child tomorrow
we'll look at this
a little more think
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