Self-Inquiry 14 of 16 - Six Basic Questions

Francis answers six questions submitted by a Japanese journalist.
2014 Summer retreat with Francis Lucille week 1 day 1

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yeah
ok we start with the planted questions
for friends online we have a planted
question from some japanese journalist
no Mike
you have said that the ego is an object
which can be perceived on the other hand
how would you describe our true nature
if you are reading it it doesn't look
spontaneous
yeah
use your job at this digested to make me
made it your own question game you have
anything to add or is it your question
yeah so her up first is it true that you
have said that the ego is an object
which can be perceived I must have been
I must have said that at some point do
you still believe it's true right
the process it depends on what we mean
by ego
okay you're comes from a Latin world
that meat just means I so ego is I now
if we are in ignorance we we believe
that this I is an object human body mind
which is an object in wherein wisdom the
two eyes at all ego is a reality that
which are which is a reality which is
hearing these words right now and
leading them in Japanese for friend on
the piece of paper
and so it depends on how we define the
ego in spiritual soccer's often what is
meant by ego is something else
what is meant by ego is ignorance
what is meant by ego is the belief that
we are a separate entity for instance
even in common parlance if we say this
guy has a big ego
what what we mean is that he totally
believed to be truly believes to be this
about person
this video is very firmly established in
him or her and he project that in his
relationship with his fellow human
beings and as a result there is a nun
prison associated with that we will not
like big egos Hitler and studying were
big egos they are not like likable guys
so that the the confusion that arises
then when we use the world ego in this
spiritual version instead of the world
of the world ignorance we kind of
validate
but he did the existence when it's 55
step 515 your money we kind of validate
the existence of such a separate entity
and
and it operates no ends in fact so
what's this then the second part of the
question how would you describe our true
nature is our two integers are real ego
in fact and it is the reality of that
which we are in the reality of what of
that which we are is that in the first
place which perceives that it is a
consciousness your wellness minutes in
ignorance we believe that this wellness
is dependent upon the body mind that it
is somehow a function of a physical or
of a sudden entity or physical entity
the brain-body a set of entity mind soul
and that this separate entities object
is conditioned by space and time or just
x x therefore that it has a beginning
and an end time that it is going to
disappear as a result to experience
existing social fear which is a fear of
absolute disappearance this fear in term
gives birth to all kind of ancillary
fears that
seem to have a particular object that
they are afraid of fear of elevators
fear of not being loved
you're being abandoned fear of the goals
fear of the afterlife if I don't behave
like a good boy or good girl it's a job
but all these fears was you have in
common
in fact is this basic fundamental fear
which is itself a direct effect of
ignorance
thank you
yes try to be in time for because we are
requesting cannot wait for you we have a
fixed time to begin and then it's
disruptive if you can later is it's okay
to be in advance to be able to see that
Francis is there something that I can do
the way i can change my relationship
with my ego that will help me to realize
my true nature independence as i just
said what we mean by ego if if we for us
ego is a signaling of ignorance meaning
something that we have to liberate
outsell ourselves from it is very
important to understand that that which
we have to liberate our self forms is
not form a formidable separate entity
that with heart that as we're existence
and that therefore with hard to cease to
exist to be killed somehow for awakening
to take place that would be a total
misunderstanding of the situation we are
already few perfect donor the Wellness
of presence there is we are fully
equipped for happiness there is nothing
really that needs to be from the
mentally changed or transform all that
needs to be done is to stop believing
that we are a separate consciousness
that consciousness is somehow limited
dependent upon the body-mind conditioned
by space and time and the way to
liberate ourselves from this belief is
to investigate the truth of this belief
to investigate whatever evidence we seem
to have that consciousness that which we
r is separate and committed now the
evidence that we seem to have with vary
from individual to individual it will be
different depending depending upon the
culture the pasty story to tell
thank you thank you for asking the
question
hi Frances I like to use the word in
your instead of ego is in your hands and
obstacle for weaken and that I
understand it is an obstacle i
understand that it is an obstacle but I
am more interested in the second part of
the question which is is in your own
some things something which is necessary
in order to live within the physical
body what I mean maybe a little bit of
it regarding gallons of regarding the
first part of your question is ignorance
an obstacle to awaken now let me let me
translate it using an analogy is the
belief in Santa Klaus an obstacle to z
and the standings that of the two nature
of Santa Klaus visibility in Santa class
an impediment
yes it is a major impediment
it is in fact the only impediment
yes right yes
what was the second part request
the second part is it is there is it
necessary to have a little bit of
endurance to do a physical body
ok now is it necessary to believe a
little bit in Santa Klaus you now to
liberate oneself or form the believe in
Santa clocks right so here you go
the only problem is that they are asking
me to do 1500 worlds with my six answers
so far we have done three hundred worlds
so next question since before we have to
add some powdered sugar into the coke
Francis and I experienced a lot of
understanding about the true nature of
who we are
however their experiences and situations
that i may come from ignorance in my
reactive pattern or reacting to and
situation that clearly comes from
ignorance so my question is how should
be deal with that ignorance when it
appears and through a trigger through a
certain situation or in a relationship
the first thing to do is to dzone it
because if we believe to be to own
ignorance which means to be an ignorant
person we are piling up endurance on top
of pre-existing ignorance because
ignorance is precisely these are
believed to be a person so what is
important is to these own it as a
separate individual is to place
ignorance also the responsibility for
ignorance
a defeat of God where it belongs
because it it's God's creation in the
first place so it so ignorant should be
seen as a meteorology called phenomenon
some kind of recurrent meteorology call
Finn a natural phenomenon
he says it's nothing special about it
and certainly we are separate entity or
since we have no power on our home we
don't have the power to create ignorance
because you are just puppets in God's
hands right there for pet cannot create
ignorance get rid of ignorance or even
be ignorant
the purpose is just the perfect so we
are as separate individuals we are
perfectly devoid of ignorance and as
consciousness
it's a game we have decided to play
fundamentally we are devoid of it but
because of our universal power of the
moment we decide to place his game to
create all the tools that are necessary
including human body to incarnated then
we are stuck with it we go rejoins us
the party for the ride
so to speak or what is a treat for the
journey for the ride and we we have the
possibility to get off the train at any
station every time the train stops every
time the train of thoughts the train of
reception thoughts stops within this
interval we were going to take over our
freedom in a moment of understanding in
a moment of love we can go back to our
to nature icon
is it and eventually get knowingly
established in it but even that is a
faulty description of the experiences
there is nobody to get established in
his true nature either about police
suddenly or gradually it's all is called
the display of divine energy that's all
you did a great job
it sounded almost spontaneous but not
quite this isn't yeah yeah haha I
Frances mmm i'm curious as to what it's
like after realization when one is seen
through the false ego they are there are
two steps there one steps that we could
call awakening and another step that we
could call full realization or getting
established in this rediscovery of art
or nature the the site and at the end
game and the endgame is to be
established in peace and happiness
that's again it's all about happiness
the realization that doesn't lead to
happiness has no value in front because
happiness is that which all human beings
seek in that sense that the goal of
lives at the mission it is it is why out
in us this desire for happiness that's
what we secrecy and happiness is another
name for for God oriented so that
seeking reality and finding a reality is
a mission and it is cinnamon to finding
happiness than annoyed causeless
happiness so that's that the endgame
that's the end of the past and the other
on the other end of the parts that the
entry point could also be called the
initiation apparently that happens we
are not yet on the path we are on the
path to the path and the initiation is
the revelation of the University and
eternity of consciousness of that which
we are about to nature in other words it
is in fact the revelation of art or
nature that that scene from the
described from the vantage point of an
individual body mind of course in fact
art or nature never reveals itself to an
individual body money it was only to
itself directly between these two points
is area what is called the southern zone
real southern the real spiritual journey
which is the the dealing with the
leftovers of annoyance and that's that
which we are interested in and that's a
clear distinction between the
traditional teachings of non-duality in
various forms being channels and bodies
being
Sufis being beat by Todd on top and
other tradition in which there is this
distinction is made between awaken easy
entering the parts and the end of the of
the path in fact the end of the path
itself is not the real end because it's
an endless process so to speak it just
at some point as we travel on the path
we have left misery behind us and
therefore all that remains is peace and
happiness but the revelation goes on
keeps going on in other words the past
becomes more and more beautiful
so the signs that we are on the path for
instance among other of other signs most
human being being as a as age as you get
older is it feels that their life is
behind them and they become more sad and
there is a form of resignation and
despair in fact we ask for those who are
on the path the their experience is that
like becomes sweeter and sweet better
and it so that's the difference
they know at some point that they have
found that they have found the right
direction so right orientations you know
it's your heart tells them that and also
the intelligence and the sense of beauty
conquer so that's these are the symptoms
that we are on the path and as our
symptoms that we are on the path would
be that when we think of ourselves
not superficially of course of a cop
asks you what's your name
you're not going to tell the cop i am
the Buddha since you like that but if
you deeply think about what you are you
find nothing in terms of separation
nothing in terms of object you know you
are discovered and you have accepted to
be both nothing and everything but not
some see so that's also a sign that you
have God's virus and that you are on the
path there are many more sign another
son is set the great transformation
takes place in your life in an
accelerated way that that you may have
been stagnant for many many years and
other 47 you discovered that you have
changed changed tremendously that
everything has been affected by the
change all your pieces then all the
compartment compartments in your life
your professional life your
your relationships your your relation
ships with your family with your
children with your companion with your
parents who your co-workers your
customers with your employees with them
with your work with your future you are
your ambitions your your your fears all
of that receives back into the distance
becomes less important and the
opposition's find her now ammonia's
resolution and that which comes to the
foreground is this piece and this
presence that seemed to envelope
everything that it's such a miracle that
it happens seemingly without any effort
or intention it can only happen at
Leslie because our the experience of our
true nature is a faultless ness itself
how could more effort take us to this
effortlessness at some point it is the
surrender of all effort there are seven
paths because of human beings most of
them in any way in ignorance we are
turning we are 40 he and sometimes what
happens on our spiritual path in with in
which all these efforts that was usually
the oriented towards the acquisition of
object of the the actualization of
some events that we're going to be to be
happiness generators all this effort are
gathered into a different direction
which is a spiritual direction but still
there is a 40 so it's intimate scene at
some point that we are making more
effort in this new unknown direction but
it is not until this message or Gaza
concentrated focused effort collapses in
this but fruitlessness of art or nature
is not NT that momentum really enter the
path that's like the admonition about
the loves of the field is now
yes yeah it's very beautiful thank you
ok we're through with supplanted
questions one more okay that we can get
serious
at last in the Zen stories this initial
awakening is often or always portrayed
as a very sudden spectacular event so
the question is must it be that or can
there be a gradual softening of the
edges towards this awareness the
if we think about how understanding
takes place understanding is always a
certain event understanding is not God
you'll now in hindsight the series of
understanding of understandings may be
construed as being a gradual evolution
that each of these increment all
understanding understandings is in by
itself certain now there are two types
of understandings their their
understandings that precedes this entry
this point of entry onto the path these
understandings are essentially about
that which we are not reviewed every
time a mistake we were making the
biggest is then we had about our to
nature about what we totally are at some
point there is the revelation of what we
totally are at least the revelation of
it as i said earlier of its university
and orbits eternity of its timelessness
at which point the the sense of
impending doom of absolute disappearance
somehow leads us perhaps some residues
some leftovers remain with us for some
time but the
the foundation of this belief is gone so
that's that the entry on the path and
that's a sudden event now he said an
event sometimes maybe maybe very
noticeable but it may also will be that
it would be left unnoticed by the mind
it's like when you catch a virus
sometimes people die because they are
got a virus now they don't remember when
they caught it and then she died
now other people died in a car accident
so that the the the the chosen notice it
but the the Davis simultaneity between
the cause of death and the death there
is no delayed right so we can you may
have both cases regarding this very
import and glimpse of truth that in in
certain cases the it is it it it it
creating the mind such a such havoc such
a big sudden change that it gets noticed
whereas there are cases in which it is
left unnoticed and it is also possible
body free if we are very open to all
possibilities that an unnoticed event of
non event of this kind leads down the
road to one which is this time
well noticed although the job has
already been accomplished
selectism but then the next event which
is a magnitude eight earthquake gets
noticed and then it is seen in hindsight
as be
being the first games with us in fact it
wasn't therefore we shouldn't be really
focused on the question did I hardly so
not did I had the subtle for two reasons
because the one who was wondering is a
separate entity who couldn't possibly
have had the subtleties at first the
treason and the second is that saturday
is not important it's overrated that
which matters is happiness which the
endgame so we should be focused on the
endgame on the final destination rather
than on this intermedia telling . on the
path so for example today when you were
pointing at the vegetables in the soup
pathan the hatha yoga vegetables and to
see that that is the case is that an
example of a sudden asst or gradual
honest and it depends we have to
understand what what was being explored
during these exercises that which was
really explored is not consciousness
itself but rather the mechanisms in the
mind the patterns in the mind that
seemed to artificially create a
separation between body and world now as
we investigate these buttons these
patterns if the glympse has not taken
place this
this shift is important limbs this
investigation will be instrumental in
removing some old blocks and perhaps
lead to the lips but the signature of
the greens is really one of finality and
end of understanding about what we truly
are in our eternity and university in
these exercises what we do is to we
cooperate with the transformation of the
mind buttons of the brain and body
Parton's that were previously consistent
with as being separate with as being
separate consciousness and we we we try
to dissolve them and to replace them
with new patterns that would be
consistent with consciousness being
Universal so what happens is that when
we so the way to one of the ways we have
to change these patterns is just to keep
in mind the new pattern and by keeping
in mind a new pattern that the old
Pattin gets erased but a new pattern is
never is hardly ever the rear part of
the perfect bottom
however it is much closer to the natural
spontaneous Adamek deception of the body
so that if we get what may happen if we
bring this part on close enough to it is
like if you bring an iron nail close to
a magnet
on the plane self always entire surface
if it comes close enough at some point
poop it gets attracted by the magnetics
sticks to it and it's the same here
it's a new partner that you artificially
creates it's like bringing zan a close
up to the magnet but you can never using
this party short-term early artificial
little artificial methods of the
visualization is atahar bring it right
to the magnet but you can be bring it
close enough that at some point a magnet
with do the final job so that but i
think this explanation is not really
it's it's not containing there in the
question from this gentleman that's good
thank you